Shape of the Fishman

[Middleman #37]

Hey, Question.

All "this" has to do with the enhancing field integrity of the egg, right?  The game we play here?  True or false or none of the above?

Or is the field-integrity a means to other ends?

I mean, if life is a video game, is it more like the new games where you follow a story, defeat masters, and resolve the mega-conflict (or meta-conflict?) - or like the old atari games where you play and play and just have fun with your high score. . . and have fun with other peoples' high scores?

But if its just about "high scores" then what's the point?  If its "just" about experience then why not throw myself off a bridge just for the experience?  At this point, a "Pascal's Wager" mindset would prohibit me from finding out about that experience. . .  but i find it comical that whatever ideas or "insights" i might have ever come up with, i see a million people with a million mutually exclusive ideas of "why we're here."  So why should you answer me if i'll never believe you?  Because hey, what's the experience like of answering the question?

Studying the fractal and scaler aspects of the electric universe, I'd say that the reason we do this has something to do with making more stars or planets, so it continues to continue - evolve and refine.  Or is the goal more of a localized harmonic enhancement.  Like you get enuf refinement and tuning to get back to source, so you can hit the reset button and play again after dinner?

am i close?

or is all of this mental stuff BS, like 'if you knew it wouldn't matter anymore so enjoy the mystery?"

[Mr Twenty Twenty]

Hey mate,

What do you want?  To do?  To learn?  To become?

Twenty Twenty
Whoo yah!

[Middleman #37]

I want to be a star.  I want to shine a light of love and energy on planets, for their beings to bask in the warmth of my love and steady and unwavering care for their life.  I don't want them to be mine, I simply want to be a source for them to draw energy - for them to live and to be and to enjoy seeing their young ones look into their eyes in the early hours.  I have enough energy and it is perfect.  Can others use this?  Do they want to?

I fear, is it too cold for them?  Are they okay?  Too dark at night?  But in the morning, there are those eyes - looking down with care and warmth.  I love them.  A smile returns.  I once thought of myself as separate, why they must now I don't know.  As connected as I am I feel this too, and don't fully know why but it is.  And it is perfect.

Is it perfect?  I don't know.  But - it is.  "I am."?  or "It is and I am."?

Fascinating separation. 

I don't want any One to suffer as I have.  But how to know the joy without the feeling of being confused first?  I don't want to cause confusion, but I do want to cause the joy.

I wish I was being poetic - but I am being naked. 

The psychologist's couch or the philosopher's stone?

[Middleman #37]

Now as I think about this more I wonder,

As this star thing seems to be a "generous" aspiration, perhaps that goal would be more similar to a punishment prison and rehabilitation?

B/c a star doesn't have a choice but to be the star.  But in a human life drama and choice can continuously develop around me, for me to experience and make determinations and choices constantly. 

The star aspiration seems admirable, but maybe its a cop-out.  Make one choice and live with the consequence for a billion years, with no other way out. 

On the other hand

. . . could think about this all day - or I can just be

but there's nothing wrong with thinking, right?  and if thinking is a lower-order function, and being is highest - then would not the star goal be the epitome?  or a planet?  i've heard she's alive and growing.  i've heard she's conscious and intelligent.  is Earth evolved or trapped?  are children gifts or parasites?

But I look at it like, this parasite is thankful.  This parasite wants balance in his host, perhaps this is fundamentally selfish.  Or fundamentally responsible?  A higher order of being?  And if the host risks destruction by caring for children, with the potential that perhaps one child will continue the 'family business,' is the meaning that life shall beget life?  Shall beget life
 

[phdinfunk]

What do you think the vision of humanity is?

Do you believe we're all one?  If not, do you at least think we're all connected?

I hear something of that grand dream that I think we all share in what you're saying.  Don't you know, when those men flew through space for the first time, and we saw the pictures on T.V., that everyone in the world was in that ship with them?  We all have a longing for the stars..  Set aside the grandiosity for a second and see, what would you give just to mop the floors on a ship that flew through galaxies?  Don't you think many many people would jump at that opportunity?

The thing I see when you talk is your vision of it is disconnected.  It's the human dream you're talking about though...  a very big and beautiful part of it from our deep unconciousness.  Think of it in terms of contributing to that world, helping people be ready, helping to build that vision.  A lot of us share it.  Really, a lot of us.  Join in...  we can be there someday.

Love,

http://theloveoffreedom.wordpress.com

--Jeannine

[Middleman #37]

Jeannine,

No, I wouldn't give anything to mop those floors.  And while I'm sure many people would say they would jump at the opportunity to ride in a rocket to space, I'm sure many feel no connection to that or desire to be a party to it at all?  I understand, but I don't think I share your sentiment.  Riding a rocket to space is what "they" did, with my grandparents' money.  What I got out of it was velcro and tang.  I'd give it back if I had the choice.  But I don't have that choice, which is also pretty awesome.

Are all of us humans connected, like you say?  Sure.  But is it as superficial as - when one man broke the four-minute-mile, we all did?  When Jackie Robinson played in a baseball game, it signaled a slow decline of racism?  To a degree?  But to _what_ degree?  Is it relevant that because I posted the above posts about 'becoming a star', then 6 billion people are also concerned about the same thing?  

I am asking this question, and I am answering it the best I can - perhaps I am "wrong."

If we were all meant to be - and think - and speak - as "One," then why the initial separation?  What is the reason for perceiving/experiencing dis-connectedness?  Personally, I feel connected to the dis-connection.  Obviously, It is all one connected thing.  But just as obvious is the palpable disconnection that humans experience. And a palpable disconnection that "We are not on Mars, it is far away."  I feel and think that there is a very good reason that our experience as humans is a disconnected one.  But i don't have all the answers as to why.  My above posts are a huge-chunk "theory" as to why, where does the human experience eventually lead?

I wondered aloud that the end-goal was to create more suns, or more planets.  Perhaps suns' purpose is to create upright-standing creatures who could energetically and consciously tap the nature of the universe, and after many reincarnations and experiences, a soul will become a star - thereby continuing the cycle. . . ?

But perhaps in the "real reality," each human soul on earth is _already_ intimately linked to a star in the sky  (On the soul level, not speaking of the obvious connection you and I have with Sol)  - Part of us lives a dis-connected human life on "earth" and part of us burns for billions of years in the night sky.  Perhaps.  

How else to experience the awesome connectedness of Universe, without being a measly little human?  How else to talk about it, without bringing up the disconnection which we all are familiar with?  To explain a little better where i come from on this, I have fancied "writing" a big book on this.  My book would be called "the nature and meaning of life."  It would be 937 pages long.  When you open to page one, there is a single word - "One."  The rest of the pages are blank.

If you don't get my 'joke,' I apologize.  My point is that knowing what its all about is not the same as sharing it with others.  In fact, I feel sadly incapable of sharing it any better than the above posts and my stupid idea for a Great Book.  Why am I sad about that?  Maybe just because I can be.  I also am in awe of it and exhilarated by the idea that knowing the answers is a far cry from sharing them with other people. . .  If there's even any truth to the idea that i have a grasp on any answers.  Part of me awaits a convincing alternative.

I want the answers, and i want to know that they are the right answers.  "Part" of me feels that way anyway.

But in all my travels, I have come up with no better answer than the greatest tragedy is when a person or group of people are convinced that they have all the answers.  So admittedly, within myself is a battle between a thing seeking answers and being comforted by them - and another part which will have no part in that joy and comfort.

Day-to-day, I give thanks, smile, laugh, and periodically get frustrated and annoyed.  

Am I ready for the philosopher's stone or the psychiatrist's couch?  

Expressing these thoughts, re-reading this post, I can't help but smile and even laugh.  Clearly I believe that I am "on the right track," while i ask aloud "What the hell is going on here?"  Someone gives me an answer, and i say, "You didn't understand the question."  LMAO.  Only on earth, baby, only on earth.  


 

[phdinfunk]

Okay, lets take out dreams of a more beautiful world, the heavens, or exploration...

Think of evolution.  Just the 3/4ths truth that our scientists point to.  Apparently some genes, especially attached to the Y chromosome, are as young as 500 years old.

So do you think that we're evolving towards "something" ?

Just like when we started trying to make cars aerodynamic, they started moving towards the same shape... the most aerodynamic thing being a drop of water.

So you could say we're all just doing our little parts, moving towards the greatest truth of what humankind could become.

I'm also curious what dream you do feel connection to?  Anything shared?

[Middleman #37]

 

The fish-man is shaped like a drop of water, or like an egg, or a fish.

That is what my OP is actually about.  So we evolve into a more energetically efficient shape, then what?  So you are quite literally asking me the same question I asked to start the thread.  What are we moving toward?  And some of my continuing thoughts pose a question of, "How much is it a matter of "we?""

Some thousands of years ago, Great Pyramids, great megalithic cities, and amazing calendars were constructed by our ancestors.  We witness these monuments of the past, yet modern engineers admit that current technology can't duplicate many of the feats we see - much less with the stone age technology the builders are supposed to have used.  So have we evolved or devolved and how and why?

As far as modern genetics, I'm not familiar with the evidence of the new genes you bring up.  I'm not denying it, just saying I've never come across that.  However, based on the evidence that most people are aware of which "scientists" want us to believe we evolved from chimpanzees or some bi-pedal apes, I find a stunning number of inconsistencies which lead me to believe there is MUCH more to human creation and evolution than most people have ever considered, right in the geologic and archeological record that is widely known and accepted.  I do wonder aloud what the real "answers" are as to how we got here, how long ago, and why.

But in fact, while most people seem to cling to either an idea that a white-haired "God," created all these plants and creatures in six days, while others want to believe microbes evolved into fish into lizards into pigs, cats, and people - evidence I see seems to indicate there are much more credible possibilities; though to most people these possibilities are either un-credible or simply too in-credible.  Alls I can say for sure is that no one I've met knows for sure, but the evidence seems to say that the "main stream" camps are way off.  Perhaps that's why I pose these questions here and not at nasa.gov or christianity.com?  I figger I'll get more valuable answers from here :-)  And if I know me, I will use them somehow.  But maybe the folks at those other sites need the questions, not the answers. . .

Some people believe that the Universe's function is to create "humans."  There is compelling evidence _that_ this is true (see golden ratio, fibonacci stuff, da vinci's man to start with), but I've never seen a good explanation for _why_ it is true.  Nonetheless I feel that this conversation is an enjoyable result of our creation.

How about this one, in regards to our _conscious_ evolution as a species - (or consciousness evolution).  Are there great cycles of time, golden ages and dark ages which alternate?  If not, then what is _your_ dream of where all of this might lead?  If these cycles are inescapable, is the overall trend toward better golden ages?  Again, why?  Where does it lead?  Or perhaps the golden, silver, bronze, and iron ages cycle along, and only at the individual soul level is there "deeper" evolution.  Again, where do you think that leads for the individual?  The Bodhisattvas say they will reincarnate until all souls achieve enlightenment.  Is that a cryptic way of saying, "The work will need done for eternity, I'm never leaving."  Or are the other options for an "enlightened" soul?  Somewhere else to go, some other things to do?

hmmmmmmmm. . .


 

   
 

[mark_tywharton]

Expressing these thoughts, re-reading this post, I can't help but smile and even laugh.  Clearly I believe that I am "on the right track," while i ask aloud "What the hell is going on here?"  Someone gives me an answer, and i say, "You didn't understand the question."  LMAO.  Only on earth, baby, only on earth.  
 

Exactly, I love that?

When I ask the question "who am I?" I have no fucking idea!

In the realm of "no fucking idea" is an opportunity

An opportunity to invent my life - only it's a dance - as soon as I believe it is real I lose the access to an invented life (I am ?)

Cheers

Mark

[Middleman #37]

Yeah, great in sight. 

Remembering the realness of reality is an illusion, and the only the illusion is reality.

[Mr Twenty Twenty]

Great posts here.

How did I miss them?

Timeless.